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  Saturday's Conference Call

  by worf in

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  2. friends

  did anyone hear this past saturday's conference call with rick?.

  one of his guests brought out how back in 1989 the wt was considering whether or not they should disfellowship those in the congregations who were overweight!

  their rationale for this was that since smoking was already a disfellowshipping offense and since smoking is bad for your health, being overweight is also bad for your health, therefore should it be made into a disfellowshipping offense.

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  Lady Zombie

  How long does it take for Kool-Aid man to get the recordings up? As of now, June 7th is the latest one.
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  Watchtower "Lights" Up Their Lives

  by Farkel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've commented offhandedly about this subject a number of times in the past, but it is worth discussing because it speaks volumes about the jw religion and the cognitive dissonance that is endemic to it.. dubs are never satisified with their "current light.

  " they weren't satisfied four decades ago when i was active, and they are not satisified now.

  they won't come out and say that of course, but we all know it is true.

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  Lady Zombie

  Amen brother!
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  Attn: WTBTS! What are you so afraid of? Hmmmmm?

  by Lady Zombie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i suspect that you have entrusted a few "spiritually minded," "faithful" brothers to quietly monitor the so-called "apostate" websites in order to do damage control later on via the form of "new light.".

  well obviously the development of the internet has been a tremendous thorn in your collective side.

  guess what!

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  Lady Zombie

  I suspect that you have entrusted a few "spiritually minded," "faithful" brothers to quietly monitor the so-called "Apostate" websites in order to do damage control later on via the form of "new light."

  Well obviously the development of the internet has been a tremendous thorn in your collective side. Guess what! The internet is here to stay and everyday more and more people are logging on to do everything from shopping to academic research. The proverbial genie is out of the bottle and Pandora's box has had the lid blasted off with dynamite.

  Every JW out there who even has one smattering of doubt or curiosity will eventually find an "apostate" video or webpage. It's inevitable.

  Since your writers love to use illustrations so much, I'll use the analogy of a seed. After all, you yourselves use the seed analogy when illustrating the preaching work.

  Even if they're a properly brainwashed and indoctrinated good JW, all they have to see is a few things that are easily researched and verifiable to plant a tiny little seed of doubt. Maybe it won't be enough for them to walk away from the religion completely, but maybe it'll be enough to put them subconsciously on alert to look for falacies and doctrine contridictions and your infamous "new light" flip flops. That tiny little seed of doubt may grow into a tree that won't sway with every little gust of wind you send out with your publications.

  We all know that you're petrified of secular education. Perfectly understandable since secular education emphasises critical thinking, proper research, and in many cases, the scientific method which values amongst other things, proofs, quantifiable results, and validity (meaning can others research the same thing and come to the same conclusions), and your religion requires blind faith and ignorance to make it work.

  If a theory is not valid, and I repeat, if a theory is not valid, another individual or group of individuals will find proof of this. Not only that, the individual(s) will inform others that the particular theory is not valid. This is done so that the erroneous theory is abadoned in favor of the correct (or in some cases, more correct) one. In science, this is called a paradigm shift. These paradigm shifts are what has propelled our understanding about the world around us forward.

  This is what you're so morbidly afraid of isn't it? You know (even if it's deep down) that your doctrines, your "truth" as it were, are blatently false. You know that that all it will take is people who are willing to take your doctrines apart and examine them, to bring your whole house of cards down.

  Your escalading villianization of secular education, the internet, "worldly" associations, independent thinking, non-herd mentality, and so on is your knee-jerk reaction to this. It is so painfully obvious to all but the happily brainwashed and ignorant, that this is what you're doing.

  But as it was said earlier, the genie is out of the bottle and all the restrictions you place on your followers won't reverse the "damage" that has already been done. In fact, the more stringent restrictions you place on your followers, the more they're going to rebel and those on the outside will more readily see what you truly are.

  Even a docile and obedient horse will fight too-tight reins.

  So, why don't you defend yourselves with this very simple supposition; if something is true, it will remain true despite all critical examinations and inquiries.

  In your case, if "the truth" is actually true, it will continue to be true no matter what apparent contridictory evidence is presented to dispute it and everyone examining the evidence will naturally come to the conclusion that "the truth" is the truth.

  So why shouldn't JWs pursue secular education? After all, if "the truth" is the truth, then nothing that is learned in secular education will dispute it, right? Why can't JWs study evolution? After all, if Jehovah created everything, surely no evidence will be found that will dispute that, right? Why can't JWs study subjects like Philosophy, Psychology, Physics, Biology, etc.? After all, if everything that you teach is "the truth," you'll have nothing to worry about, right?

  So the mere fact that you strongly discourage, nay even demonize, secular education, suggests that you're desperately trying to hide something. And believe me, a large number of your followers are starting to sense this.

  What are you trying to hide? Are you maybe trying to hide the fact that your dogmatic doctrines are full of holes? Are you trying to hide your brainwashing techniques? Are you trying to hide evidence of your crime-enabling (pedophiles) practices? Are you trying to hide the multitude of ruined lives and destroyed families that your religion has caused?

  It is quite transparent and pathetic that your only defense to combat this awakening is to apply more thought control through fear and intimidation and imposed ignorance. You are negligent that because of your doctrines, you now have a large mass of followers who lack the basic skills or education to support themselves and their families at a level of above poverty, and you are negligent because you now have a large mass of rapidly aging followers who were discouraged from planning for their old age in favor of sacrificing their productive years to build your religious empire.

  And that is criminal. I accuse you of knowingly, willingly, and actively violating the human rights of your followers.

  Acknowledge the accusations made by all these so called "apostates" and "opposers" and prove them wrong. Quit hiding behind your ad hominem attacks and address the core issues.

  I suspect that you won't. Not because you're unwilling, but rather because you are unable because you are, quite simply, a bunch of unscrupulous Mountebanks.
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  Judgemental, hypocritical bit*h!

  by Lady Zombie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a friend of mine owns a small ceramics and gift shop.

  i guess a year or so ago, she bought up a ridiculous amount of small plushy toys, like beanie babies, webkinz, etc.. she had about 30 of them she had forgot about in a storeroom.

  she thought of putting them on the shelves but decided just to write them off.

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  Lady Zombie

  I'm tempted to point out to her that a "worldly" non-jw gave her daughter those toys out of the goodness of her heart.

  After all, since worldly non-jws are so terrible, I think it only fair that she should villianize the correct person.
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  Judgemental, hypocritical bit*h!

  by Lady Zombie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a friend of mine owns a small ceramics and gift shop.

  i guess a year or so ago, she bought up a ridiculous amount of small plushy toys, like beanie babies, webkinz, etc.. she had about 30 of them she had forgot about in a storeroom.

  she thought of putting them on the shelves but decided just to write them off.

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  Lady Zombie

  A friend of mine owns a small ceramics and gift shop. I guess a year or so ago, she bought up a ridiculous amount of small plushy toys, like Beanie Babies, Webkinz, etc.

  She had about 30 of them she had forgot about in a storeroom. She thought of putting them on the shelves but decided just to write them off.

  Anyway, she called me and asked if I knew of a needy child(ren), and if I didn't, she was going to donate them to a battered womens shelter. I thought for a moment and told her of a single JW mother, on welfare, blah blah blah. This same single JW mother recently asked me to help her get into a new apartment by being a character reference. I agreed.

  So my friend bundles up half of the toys and gives them to me to give to her. I did so.

  The woman took the toys but didn't say thank you. No big deal, the toys were for her 3 year old daughter and besides, it wasn't me giving the gift anyway.

  Earlier this week, when I reluctantly dragged myself to a meeting, this "sister" comes up to me and very snottitly told me;

  "Sorry that I didn't say thank you that day. I'm just kinda reluctant to talk to you because I don't think you're that good of association. You don't pioneer and you're kinda 'worldly.'"

  My jaw dropped because this is the same woman who had a child out of wedlock with a drug addict, DA'd herself, waited 2 years, dumped him, then came back. Now she's looking down her nose at me.

  Is she freakin' kidding?!

  I'm laughing about it but still.
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  apostates

  by JacquelinePloss in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  i think i'm on the wrong site.

  aren't apostafests for apostates???.

  i knew it.

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  Lady Zombie

  I think I'm on the wrong site. Aren't Apostafests for Apostates???

  I knew it. I'm out of here. bye.
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  Did You Ever "Rat" Anyone Out To The Elders?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after you told on someone, did you feel like a snitch?

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  Lady Zombie

  Nope, never did! I was pressured many times to rat on people by various elders, and got in trouble myself for telling the elders that whatever so-and-so may be doing, it certainly wasn't ANY of my business. I got stern talking-to's because of my "sin enabling" attitude. I reminded them that even IF I saw something, and even IF I came to them, they couldn't act on it BECAUSE I'm only 1 person and it takes 2 witnesses to confirm the alleged offense. Assholes. The elders AND the rats.
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  2008 Drama on YouTube. Oh boy!

  by Open mind in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  fellow jwders,.

  let us join in giving heart-felt thanks to the loyal worshiper of jehovah who took the time to post this year's dc drama on youtube.. i'm sure the wt is cool with this.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6vfmgkwfp4&feature=related.

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  Lady Zombie

  A little off topic but WHO THE HELL teaches acting to these "priviledged" participants?!?!?!?!?!

  Overacting, exaggerated gestures, unnatural head shaking......

  I think THAT is what makes me laugh more than anything.

  Well, BESIDES the gag inducing topics.
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  Am I the only one that Cannot PAY ATTENTION to Jehovah?

  by Sparkplug in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  now i hate to sound as add as i am, but usually if i read something twice i can make myself focus if i am wandering.

  but everytime i start to read anything that has something to do with the wtbts i cannot get it even after repeated attempts.

  it is as if charlie browns mom is right in my ear and my mind will not register.

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  Lady Zombie

  My theory is that your mind is self-preserving. It is trying to save itself from intellectual suicide, or 'brain drain' if you will.

  That's why it shuts itself down when presented with the crap presented from the WTBTS.
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  Why a college education is bad

  by TooBad TooSad in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  at our recent butt numbing, mind dulling, sleep inducing district assembly on saturday morning there.

  was a talk where the speaker said that we are going to make a list that shows the contrast between.

  jehovah's organization and satan's organization.

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  Lady Zombie

  Satan offers higher education huh? Wow.

  What a bunch of freakin idiots!